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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2009, 05:03:13 PM »
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Goblin Swarms of course. That's why that card can not be allowed to stay on table.

D'oh! XD Of course. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 05:55:14 PM »
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Goblin Swarms of course. That's why that card can not be allowed to stay on table.

Considering all of the other conditions in LotR, how do you think Goblin Swarms is the worst?
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he didn't say it was the worst, he said you can't let your opponent keep it on the table. discard it as soon as possible every time.

Good spot. Sorry about that.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2009, 06:47:26 PM »
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Step 1:  Play Traveled Leader to switch the site to Caras Galadhon.

Step 2:  Assign only the weakest minions to your companions.

Step 3:  Console your opponent, who is crying at the other side of the table.

Also, given the Moria minions you mentioned, Mithrandir, Mithrandir could do the trick.  =P
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2009, 06:54:12 PM »
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Oh man. Mithrandir, Mithrandir! I forgot that card existed. Hopefully the people I play with don't remember it exists either!
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2009, 06:55:12 PM »
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Pretty sure I've never actually seen it used.  =P
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2009, 06:56:24 PM »
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Pretty sure I've never actually seen it used.  =P

It's a pretty nice card coupled with Gandalf, the White Wizard considering it's twilight cost...

...although you might as well just use Gandalf, Mithrandir (why doesn't anyone seem to use him anymore? I think he's great with Moment of Respite).
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2009, 06:59:52 PM »
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Well, if you're just looking for twilight tokens to spot for Gandalf, TWW (or any of his other cards, like Deep in Thought), there are better ways to get it than Mithrandir, Mithrandir.  Like, for example, Roll of Thunder!

Though I suppose if your deck is weak to swarm, you could put a copy or two of Mithrandir, Mithrandir in.  Especially if you're playing sets 1-10 and can use Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor -- that way, you can diversify which events you use and then pull back whichever ones are more useful in any given situation.
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2009, 07:01:27 PM »
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Especially if you're playing sets 1-10

I play Movie Block exclusively, but I like looking at other forums for ideas!

Yeah, I should really look through the Towers Block Gandalf cards again. I can't seem to remember any of them!
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2009, 07:04:54 PM »
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Wizardry Indeed. Badass.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2009, 07:42:03 AM »
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Maneuver Phase is skipped by Balrog: so no Traveled Leader, no Mithrandir, Mithrandir and so on.
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2009, 08:37:56 AM »
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Maneuver Phase is skipped by Balrog: so no Traveld Leader, no Mithrandir, Mithrandir and so on.

Good point, but I just meant in general those cards are nice. I kind of forgot what the original topic was about!
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2009, 10:18:32 AM »
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Whoops, I'd totally forgotten that he skips the maneuver phase.  Maybe 4x Shadowplay + 1x Unheeded to kill him off as he's played, then we get our maneuver phase back?  =P  Alternatively, Great Day, Great Hour + Unheeded.
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« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2009, 04:22:26 AM »
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Pretty easy. You have Isildur with Narsil, Hunters ring, a lot of gondor artifacts and coat of mail or footman's armor. Other than that a lot of defender + companions could help...
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« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2009, 05:45:47 AM »
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Pretty easy. You have Isildur with Narsil, Hunters ring, a lot of gondor artifacts and coat of mail or footman's armor. Other than that a lot of defender + companions could help...

First off, that's not "pretty easy." It is plausible, but not "easy."

If the maneuver phase is skipped, you are likely going to lose out on the ability to become defender +1 unless the character's game text allows him or her to be defender +1 (i.e., Aragorn, Heir to Elendil or Eomer with Firefoot). You can't use the Hunters ring if Cavern Entrance is played, or at least to my understanding.
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« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2009, 08:58:02 AM »
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I still think the best solution is to kill the Balrog as he's played (as detailed in my earlier post), then just use Traveled Leader to swap in Caras Galadhon (or use Mithrandir, Mithrandir to kill most of the swarm).

Yes, this involves having a certain combination of cards in hand and in play, but there was no restriction placed on the fellowship player's resources in this scenario, and if the imaginary shadow player is allowed to have a Balrog and 15 minions, I think we can be allowed to have a few key events in hand.  =P
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