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Thranduil
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:36 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
lem0nhead wrote:
I see your point about why theyre balanced, and ill probably concede on the latter two. But the first is still too good. You can play smaug and these over region 2 and have a twilight bomb set up for site 9 when u could flood it and mince the freeps. Condition discard wrecks it obviously but thats true of most decks. Id still be wary of it.

Changed. How is it now?

Thranduil
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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:38 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Yeah thats fine. I think i need to dwell on your mechanic i while longer, and its implications before i judge your next lot. I cant seem to balance it in my head.
Ban shampoo, demand real poo.
Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
Thranduil
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:25 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
I was really hoping for another review or 2, but you can’t have everything I guess.

So, moving on:

1 Desolation Sauron
Event • Skirmish
To play, spot Smaug and discard a Shadow card from play. For each site stacked on that Shadow card, make an unbound companion strength -2 (limit -4).
... they could see in the wide valley shadowed by the Mountain’s arms the grey ruins of ancient houses, towers and walls.
H2 U 148

1 Barren Lands Sauron
Event • Maneuver
To play, spot Smaug and discard a Shadow card from play. For each site stacked on that Shadow card, discard a condition from play.
There was little grass, and before long there was neither bush nor tree, and only broken and blackened stumps to speak of ones long vanished.
H2 R 140

And a totally unrelated card to go with them:

0 Spout of Flame Sauron
Event • Maneuver
Exert Smaug to make the Free Peoples player wound a companion. You may do this again if you can spot 6 companions.
Fire leapt from the dragon’s jaws...
H2 U 165

Thranduil
Last edited by Thranduil on Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:01 am; edited 3 times in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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lem0nhead
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:24 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
I was really hoping for another review or 2, but you can’t have everything I guess.

As it stands you can barely have ANYthing let alone everything in the reviewing area.

So, moving on:

1 Desolation Sauron
Event • Skirmish
To play, spot Smaug and discard a Shadow card from play. For each site stacekd on that Shadow card, make an unbound companion strength -1.
... they could see in the wide valley shadowed by the Mountain’s arms the grey ruins of ancient houses, towers and walls.
H2 U 148

Stacked typo. Oof. Nice. Maybe and resistance -1.

1 Barren Lands Sauron
Event • Maneuver
To play, spot Smaug and discard a Shadow card from play. For each site stacekd on that Shadow card, discard a condition from play.
There was little grass, and before long there was neither bush nor tree, and only broken and blackened stumps to speak of ones long vanished.
H2 R 140

Stacked typo. Copy and paste eh? Wink Fair enough, shame title was used in mount doom.

And a totally unrelated card to go with them:

0 Spout of Flame Sauron
Event • Maneuver
Exert Smaug to make the Free Peoples player wound a companion. If you can spot 6 companions, you may repeat this.
Fire leapt from the dragon’s jaws...
H2 U 165

I wouldnt say repeat as it sounds an undefined limit. Say you may do this again if you can spot 6 companions. Sound.

Thranduil
Ban shampoo, demand real poo.
Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
Thranduil
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:15 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
lem0nhead wrote:
Stacked typo. Copy and paste eh? Wink Fair enough, shame title was used in mount doom.

Just checked. The card in Mount Doom is "Barren Land" - mine has a crucial ’s’!

Thranduil
'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
- Dream of the Endless

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:36 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:

1 Desolation Sauron
Event • Skirmish
To play, spot Smaug and discard a Shadow card from play. For each site stacked on that Shadow card, make an unbound companion strength -1.
... they could see in the wide valley shadowed by the Mountain’s arms the grey ruins of ancient houses, towers and walls.
H2 U 148
make it -2, limit -4

1 Barren Lands Sauron
Event • Maneuver
To play, spot Smaug and discard a Shadow card from play. For each site stacked on that Shadow card, discard a condition from play.
There was little grass, and before long there was neither bush nor tree, and only broken and blackened stumps to speak of ones long vanished.
H2 R 140
works for me.

0 Spout of Flame Sauron
Event • Maneuver
Exert Smaug to make the Free Peoples player wound a companion. You may do this again if you can spot 6 companions.
Fire leapt from the dragon’s jaws...
H2 U 165

I like the companion hate, maybe you get to choose them if you can spot 6
ArrowSop's haves/ top wantsExclamation
(mm)"SoP: you will always be the Official CC Spammer in my heart"
"DáinIronfoot"
Spammers really are amazing creatures. You can learn all there is to know about their ways in a month. And yet, after a hundred years, they can still surprise you. Razz
Thranduil
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:52 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Thanks guys. Have a GP each for being such loyal reviewers!

Now for some slightly different uses of site-stacking:

0 Befouled Sauron
Event • Shadow
Spot Smaug to choose one: stack a random site from your opponent’s adventure deck on your Shadow card; or discard a stacked site.
Fire leaped from thatched roofs and wooden beam-ends as he hurtled down and past and round again...
H2 C 142

1 Flickering Fires Sauron
Event • Maneuver
Spot Smaug and discard a site stacked on your Shadow card to choose one: add 3; draw a card; or exert a companion.
Flames unquenchable sprang high into the night.
H2 C 154

1 Frightful Guardian Sauron
Event • Regroup
Spot Smaug and discard a site stacked on your Shadow card to choose one: add a burden; discard a condition; or discard a follower.
He was just about to step out... when he caught a sudden thin and piercing ray of red from under the dropping lid of Smaug’s left eye.
H2 R 155

And another miscellaneous card for the weekend:

0 Dire Menace Sauron
Event • Shadow
Play Smaug from your discard pile or hand. His twilight cost is -4 and he is strength -6 until the end of the turn.
Smaug left his lair in silent stealth, quietly soared into the air, and then floated heavy and slow in the dark like a monstrous crow...
H2 R 149

Thranduil
Last edited by Thranduil on Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:34 pm; edited 1 time in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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lem0nhead
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:00 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
Thanks guys. Have a GP each for being such loyal reviewers!

Awww thanks dude Embarassed . Have one back for the same reason! GP

0 Befouled Sauron
Event • Shadow
Spot Smaug to choose one: stack a random site from your opponent’s adventure deck on your Shadow card; or discard a stacked site.
Fire leaped from thatched roofs and wooden beam-ends as he hurtled down and past and round again...
H2 C 142

Ok.

0 Flickering Fires Sauron
Event • Maneuver
Spot Smaug and discard a site stacked on your Shadow card to choose one: add 2; draw a card; or exert a companion.
Flames unquenchable sprang high into the night.
H2 C 154

Cool.

0 Frightful Guardian Sauron
Event • Regroup
Spot Smaug and discard a site stacked on your Shadow card to choose one: add a burden; discard a condition; or discard a follower.
He was just about to step out... when he caught a sudden thin and piercing ray of red from under the dropping lid of Smaug’s left eye.
H2 R 155

Fair enough.


0 Dire Menace Sauron
Event • Shadow
Play Smaug from your draw deck or hand. His twilight cost is -4 and he is strength -6 until the end of the turn.
Smaug left his lair in silent stealth, quietly soared into the air, and then floated heavy and slow in the dark like a monstrous crow...
H2 R 149

Cool!

Thranduil
Ban shampoo, demand real poo.
Popcorn My Trade List and CC References
"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:58 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:


0 Befouled Sauron
Event • Shadow
Spot Smaug to choose one: stack a random site from your opponent’s adventure deck on your Shadow card; or discard a stacked site.
Fire leaped from thatched roofs and wooden beam-ends as he hurtled down and past and round again...
H2 C 142
sure

0 Flickering Fires Sauron
Event • Maneuver
Spot Smaug and discard a site stacked on your Shadow card to choose one: add 2; draw a card; or exert a companion.
Flames unquenchable sprang high into the night.
H2 C 154
make the freeps chose one IMHO

0 Frightful Guardian Sauron
Event • Regroup
Spot Smaug and discard a site stacked on your Shadow card to choose one: add a burden; discard a condition; or discard a follower.
He was just about to step out... when he caught a sudden thin and piercing ray of red from under the dropping lid of Smaug’s left eye.
H2 R 155
cool!


0 Dire Menace Sauron
Event • Shadow
Play Smaug from your draw deck or hand. His twilight cost is -4 and he is strength -6 until the end of the turn.
Smaug left his lair in silent stealth, quietly soared into the air, and then floated heavy and slow in the dark like a monstrous crow...
H2 R 149

I say hand or discard pile
ArrowSop's haves/ top wantsExclamation
(mm)"SoP: you will always be the Official CC Spammer in my heart"
"DáinIronfoot"
Spammers really are amazing creatures. You can learn all there is to know about their ways in a month. And yet, after a hundred years, they can still surprise you. Razz
Thranduil
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:58 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
sickofpalantirs wrote:
I say hand or discard pile

I was toying with the same idea but decided against allowing Smaug to be played 8 times in a game.

Thranduil
'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
- Dream of the Endless

Check out my block based on The Hobbit, my remake of Age's End, and the Fall of Eregion
Vote for your favourite Bilbo, Retired Adventurer(V)

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