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NBarden
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:10 pm
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We’re not voting as of yet, we’re simply gathering cards to vote on next time around.

And the horn combo has been banned in PPE format, FYI.

Oh, EL, have you ever played exert to wound Orc with Frenzy and Saruman w/ Whisper in the Dark and Mumak Commander, GatS? I’d say its tier 1.
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:03 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
NBarden wrote:
HOLY COW! Frenzy of Arrows didn’t get banned!

Hey, the people have spoken.

Proposition: X Saruman, Servant of Sauron. That way, Frenzy of Arrows is actually balanced. If you run followers, you get punished.
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AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:06 pm
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I’m all for banning Saruman, Servant of Sauron.

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elf lvr
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:52 pm
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Sounds good. Thumbs Up
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LeoKula
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:13 am
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CarpeGuitarrem wrote:
NBarden wrote:
HOLY COW! Frenzy of Arrows didn’t get banned!

Hey, the people have spoken.

Proposition: X Saruman, Servant of Sauron. That way, Frenzy of Arrows is actually balanced. If you run followers, you get punished.


You got to the heart of the question. GP If you don’t use shadow followers then the you can’t abuse either Isengard Ruined, Frenzy of arrows or Whispering in the Dark and these two last become what they what meant to be: anti-follower cards, same as tower assassin with allies.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:01 pm
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X him.
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NBarden
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:24 pm
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Just an idea, how about a combo ban?

But seriously, Frenzy is a NPE if you run ANY followers AT ALL. And since the Erkenbrand’s Horn combo has been banned, is Frenzy of Arrows really necessary to keep crazy followers in check?
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elf lvr
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:27 pm
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There are too many cobos with that Saruman. Isengard Ruined, Frenzy of Arrows, Whispers in the Dark, etc... also, cards like Black Land Sentry, GatS, and NG decks can just abuse him too much... besides, there’s a rules issue with him.

Just X ’em and it’s all good.
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:56 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
NBarden wrote:


But seriously, Frenzy is a NPE if you run ANY followers AT ALL. And since the Erkenbrand’s Horn combo has been banned, is Frenzy of Arrows really necessary to keep crazy followers in check?

Says you, but I disagree. What Freeps run followers regularly? Hobbits, Ents, and Elves...and maybe Rohan. Elves have archery or Elven Armaments, Ents are just tough and needed a counter anyway, and Hobbits need something to tone them down. As for Rohan, that’s a wildcard, but they’ve got plenty of beatdown anyway.
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:12 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Fighting Frodo (Gamling’s Horn is a must have), Initiative Losers, Hobbits (ring-bound and unbound, pipeweed, etc), Gandalf men, Elvents, Ents, just about any deck with any hobbits that needs to cycle, (Smallburrow), any deck that needs to trash conditions (Pallando), Ents, Gondor decks have general use followers, just about any deck anymore uses followers.
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