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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:43 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Continued from another thread contemplating what to do with the fellowship keyword, the idea was brought up of making it mean something like this:

"While you can spot only fellowship companions in the fellowship, each companion is Ring-bound."

People seemed to like that idea, but were curious (as was I) what cards might be more or less useful should EVERY companion suddenly be Ring-bound.

So, I compiled a list. Thumbs Up

NOTE: All cards marked with a # are Standard-legal. All others are legal only in non-Standard formats.

Here’s a list of all the cards I can find that would help Ring-bound companions, or have text that keys off of them:

Gondor Gondor:
Arrows Thick in the Air
Curse Them
Damrod, Ranger of Ithilien
Forbidden Pool
Forests of Ithilien
Gondorian Ranger
Mablung, Soldier of Gondor
New Errand
Ranger’s Bow
Ruins of Osgiliath

Shire Shire:
Brace of Coneys
Light Shining Faintly
Sam’s Pack
Morgai Foothills #
Mithril-coat, Dwarf-mail #
Phial of Galadriel, The Light of Earendil #

There are some other really neat cards like Faramir, Ithilien Ranger, Faramir’s Cloak, Frodo, Tired Traveller, and You Must Help Us that would be fantastic, but wouldn’t work because they would they require a non-fellowship companion, meaning your normally-unbound companions would no longer be Ring-bound.

Now, the cards that would hurt them.

Raider Raider:
Eastern Emyn Muil
Gathering to the Summons
Howl of Harad (actually might be LESS powerful with so many RB companions)
Southron Assassin (ditto here)
Haradrim Marksman (and DEFINATELY here)
Southron Commander (very deadly since the FP player can’t opt out! Twisted Evil)

Gollum Gollum:
Gollum, Old Villain
Chasm’s Edge (OUCH!) #

Sauron Sauron:
Eye of Barad-dur (OUCH again!)
Barren Land (oh, the humanity!) #

Wraith Wraith:
Ulaire Nertea, Winged Hunter (kinda weakened with so many RB companions)
Ulaire Nelya, Black-Mantled Wraith (just MEAN!) #
Ulaire Otsea, Black-Mantled Wraith (the unbound opt-out is no longer an option) #

Orc Orc:
Orc Crusher (LOTS of burden potential) #


There’s something else to consider: since you wouldn’t have any unbound companions, none of these cards could be used (leaving out non-fellowship companions and Rohan cards, since they couldn’t be used anyway):

Dwarven Stout and Strong
Dwarven Counts But One #
Elven Arrow and Blade
Elven A Grey Ship #
Gandalf Treebeard, Earthborn
Gandalf Treebeard, Oldest Living Thing
Gandalf Birchseed, Tall Statesman (forced to discard for ability)
Gandalf Down From the Hills
Gandalf Forest Guardian (forced to discard for ability)
Gandalf Lindenroot, Elder Shepherd (forced to discard)
Gandalf Boomed and Trumpeted
Gandalf Ent Moot
Gandalf Have Patience #
Gandalf Light the Beacons #
Gandalf Peace of Mind #
Gandalf Let Us Not Tarry #
Gandalf Mighty Steed #
Gandalf Not the First Halfling #
Gandalf One Last Surprise #
Gondor At His Command #
Gondor Sapling of the White Tree #
Gondor Blade of Gondor, Sword of Boromir (ability does not work) #
Gondor Confronting the Eye #
Gondor Guardian #
Shire Escape
Shire Knocked on the Head
Shire Store-room
Shire Warmed Up a Bit
Shire Kept Safe
Shire Long Slow Wrath
Shire Closer and Closer He Bent #
Shire So Fair, So Desperate #
Shire Unheeded #
Shire We Shall Meet Again Soon #
Shire Everyone Knows #
Shire Salt from the Shire (skirmish ability can’t be used) #
Shire A Task Now to Be Done #
Shire Measure of Comfort #

On the plus side, there are some Shadow cards that couldn’t touch you if every companion were Ring-bound:

Dunland Over the Isen
Gollum Horribly Strong #
Isengard Brought Back Alive
Isengard Elite Crossbowmen
Isengard Grima, Son of Galmod
Isengard Grima, Wormtongue (finally, a REALLY effective way to shut him down Twisted Evil)
Isengard Grima, Chief Counselor (him too!)
Isengard Haunting Her Steps
Isengard Men Will Fall
Isengard No Dawn for Men
Isengard Orthanc Champion
Isengard Ranged Commander (rendered MOSTLY useless)
Isengard Uruk Crossbowman
Isengard Uruk Follower
Isengard Uruk Hunter
Isengard Uruk Pursuer
Isengard Volley Fire
Isengard Where Has Grima Stowed It?
Men Bloodthirsty #
Men Fearsome Dunlending #
Men Dunlending Zealot #
Men Trail of Terror #
Men Dunlending Trapper #
Men Lying Counsel #
Men Rapid Reload (main ability does not work) #
Orc Entrapping Orc #
Orc Black Land Overlord #
Raider Easterling Guard
Raider Easterling Lieutenant
Raider Cast Unto the Winds #
Raider Far Harad Mercenaries #
Raider Stampeded (second part does not work) #
Sauron Gorgoroth Assassin #
Sauron Window of the Eye #
Uruk-hai Intimidating Uruk #
Uruk-hai Our Foes Are Weak #
Uruk-hai Suppressing Uruk #
Uruk-hai Tempest of War (resistance reduction does not work) #
Uruk-hai Uruk Desecrator #
Uruk-hai Assault Commander #
Uruk-hai Uruk Blitz (only the resistance reduction does not work) #
Wraith Between Nazgul and Prey #
Wraith Black Dart #
Wraith Morgul Vanguard #
Wraith Sense of Obligation #
Wraith Shadowy Mount (assignment action rendered useless) #
Wraith Ulaire Enquea, Sixth of the Nine Riders (only effective if there are at least 6 companions) #

WHEW!

I’ll let you draw your own conclusions, but there are plenty of cards that would help out if every companion were Ring-bound, but there are others that would suddenly become downright deadly. All in all, I think it would balance out once players adjusted and found which of the above cards worked best for them. ’Twould certainly make for an interesting new cat-and-mouse way of playing the game! Very Happy
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:44 pm; edited 2 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:28 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
It would be very interesting. My first thought was, "Hey, that’s insane! You can now use all of those crazy ring-bound ranger wounding cards now!" But now that I look at it, it does balance because of the cards you can’t use on your companions. Good idea.

Ooh, I predict Chasm’s Edge as a cutting edge card now...
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BearerOfQuality
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:33 pm
Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 217 Location: United Kingdom
Hmm I think it balances itself out in that there aren’t many shadow cards that affect ringbound companions and there are a lot of shadow cards that won’t affect them, but there are a fair few cards that affect lots of companions and multiple-culture fellowships, so it kinda nicely balances itself out.

I think it’s a good rule, and far more imaginitive than the Hunters +X strength.
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:34 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:
Ooh, I predict Chasm’s Edge as a cutting edge card now...

Aye, that and (in Expanded play) Eye of Barad-dur are probably the ultimate anti-mass-Ring-bound companions cards, followed very closely by Barren Land and Ulaire Nelya, Black-Mantled Wraith and Ulaire Otsea, Black-Mantled Wraith. Mass wounds/exertions! Twisted Evil

But with 4x Chasm’s Edge and a moderate fellowship of 5 Ring-bound companions, you’re looking at a strength 25 Gollum! Yoikes! Pair it with Gollum, Old Villain for some REAL fun. Mwaha!
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:55 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
it will only be cutting edge IF we decide to use fellowship like this. and that means you have to get your player groups to do it like this and such. it is an idea in its beginning stages. IMHO looking at this list really its only benefit is not being hit by that one list of cards. the cards you could use and not that good, and outweighed by the cards you couldn’t.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:06 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
With fellowship Aragorn and Boromir, it is AWESOME in Expanded play, because you can unlock all those Ring-bound Man Gondor cards, as well as having access to Sam’s Pack and the awesomeness that is the Light Shining Faintly/Brace of Coneys combo. Otherwise, it does lose some of its punch, yes.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

Check out Lasting Alliances, The Road Ahead, and Ages of Middle-earth, three of my five dream card sets that make up Wars of the Ring. Oh, and I have a trade list now!

Also, if you're into DCs or RPGs (or even if you're not!), check out Realms of Middle-earth, the sequel to CG's "DC Adventure", Realms of the North!
bobtheorc
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:31 pm
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Wow, its hot in Iowa
Nice list Dain, GP from me
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:25 pm
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Absolutely worth a GP for all the work. Thanks for taking the time!
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