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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:40 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

Thranduil wrote:

Given 1 review in nearly 48 hours,

Evil Raiders Orc

Event • Maneuver
This event’s twilight cost is -1 for each Orc

Warg you can spot.
Add

for each

minion you can spot.
Just at that moment the wolves trotted howling into the clearing.
H1 C 157
cool!

Wicked Deeds Orc

Event • Shadow
Toil 2.
Spot an Orc

Warg and an Orc

Orc to discard a condition.
... all would have been killed except for the few the goblins kept from the wolves and carried back as prisoners to their caves.
H1 U 212
cut cost to 0 compare to dread and dispair

Shuddering Howl Orc

Event • Skirmish
Make an Orc

Warg strength +1 for each twilight token you can spot (limit +4).
There were no wolves living near Mr. Baggins’ hole at home, but he knew that noise.
H1 U 195
cool!
Should next time be Trolls or Giants?

giants

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Thranduil

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:19 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

sickofpalantirs wrote:

cut cost to 0 compare to dread and despair

Good point, but I’d rather not cut the cost. What if I made it 2 conditions, or a condition or possession?

Also, I feel honour-bound to inform you all that the giants probably aren’t that exciting, they’re just a beat-down. I had too many ’johnny’ strategies and I needed a ’timmy’, so I threw in the giants.

Oh, and in case you don’t know I’m referencing a Magic the Gathering article that said there were 3 types of players:

Timmy loves to feel things, so he likes huge creatures (in the Magic terminology) and causing direct damage and slaying as much as possible. Timmy strategies include most beat-down, and he loves Sauron and the huge orcs like the army of udun.

Johnny wants to express himself, so he thinks up crazy and convoluted combos to base his decks around. I’m a johnny player, which makes me a very johnny card designer, as my Eagles, for example, show. Johnny strategies are few and far between in LOTR, the main ones being stacking and tokens.

Spike just wants to win, so he uses efficient cards that are both powerful and cost effective. He’s the kind of person who loves to use his dark approach deck to mercilessly slay all who come before him.

It was a good article.

Thranduil

Last edited by Thranduil on Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:55 pm; edited 4 times in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:41 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

make it 1-2 freeps cards except companion and it is good

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Thranduil

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:49 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

sickofpalantirs wrote:

make it 1-2 freeps cards except companion and it is good

Then it could discard artifacts. Isn’t that your pet-hate? Razz

I’ll change it to 2 conditions unless anyone objects.

Thanks, SoP.

And here’s a giant to keep you lot going:

• Thundering Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 12
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
Fierce. Damage +1.
While at a mountain site, this minion is strength +3.
Each time this minion wins a skirmish, you may exert a companion.
The lightning splinters on the peaks, and rocks shiver, and great crashes split the air and go rolling and tumbling into every cave...
H1 R 202

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Last edited by Thranduil on Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:50 am; edited 1 time in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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AgentDrake

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:35 pm

Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 667 Location: Halfway between eccentric and insane...

Thranduil wrote:

And here’s a giant to keep you lot going:

• Thundering Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 15
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
To play, spot an Orc

Should probably be strength 12 and worded "While at a mountain site, this minion is strength +3."

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lem0nhead

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:27 am

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island

Thranduil wrote:

• Thundering Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 15
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
To play, spot an Orc

minion.
Fierce. Damage +1.
Unless at a mountain site, this minion is strength -3.
Each time this minion wins a skirmish, you may exert a companion.
The lightning splinters on the peaks, and rocks shiver, and great crashes split the air and go rolling and tumbling into every cave...
H1 R 202

Why not make not make him 12 strength and say while at a mountain site he is strength +3? Also say spot 2 orc minions as he’s very nasty.
Part from that fair enough, good card.

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:01 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

lem0nhead wrote:

Thranduil wrote:

• Thundering Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 15
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
To play, spot an Orc

Why not make not make him 12 strength and say while at a mountain site he is strength +3?.

My thoughts almost exactly. It looks clumsy writing it the way you did; having him be 12 strength and +3 at a mountain looks a lot better. Thumbs Up

But a pretty good minion, overall. I think, instead of adding any spotting requirement, I’d up his cost to

. He isn’t really "allied" with Orcs or anyone else, so he deserves to be a rare, powerful splash minion like The Balrog, in my opinion. If you want, you could simply require spotting another Orc

minion for either his strength boost or his skirmish winning ability to work, but I don’t think even that would be necessary.

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Thranduil

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:59 am

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

DáinIronfoot wrote:

[My thoughts almost exactly. It looks clumsy writing it the way you did; having him be 12 strength and +3 at a mountain looks a lot better. Thumbs Up

But a pretty good minion, overall. I think, instead of adding any spotting requirement, I’d up his cost to

. He isn’t really "allied" with Orcs or anyone else, so he deserves to be a rare, powerful splash minion like The Balrog, in my opinion. If you want, you could simply require spotting another Orc

minion for either his strength boost or his skirmish winning ability to work, but I don’t think even that would be necessary.

I like that. Changed it on both counts. Thanks guys.

to all when I can.

For other giants, however, I want them to spot an Orc

minion as firstly they could spot other giants, and secondly they live with the Orcs in the Misty Mountains although they’re not allied (and there aren’t enough giants to make a deck out of on their own).

Terrible Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 12
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
Fierce. Damage +1.
To play, spot an Orc

minion.
While at a mountain site, this minion gains Terror 1 (each time this character is assigned to skirmish an opponent’s character, you may make them exert 1 of their characters).
More terrible still are thunder and lightning in the mountains at night, when storms come up from East and West and make war.
H1 C 199

Mountain Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 13
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
Fierce.
To play, spot a Giant (or 2 Orc

minions).
The current site is a mountain.
’If we don’t get blown off, or drowned, or struck by lightning, we shall be picked up by some giant and kicked sky-high for a football.’
H1 U 191

Stone-Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 13
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
Damage +1. Archer.
To play, spot an Orc

minion.
At a mountain site, this minion’s twilight cost is -2.
... the stone-giants were out, and were hurling rocks at one another for a game.
H1 R 196

Those are all the giants, next time will be some support cards.

Do you think they still need the spotting requirement?

Thranduil

Last edited by Thranduil on Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:34 pm; edited 3 times in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:50 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Thranduil wrote:

For other giants, however, I want them to spot an Orc

Fair enough.

Thranduil wrote:

Terrible Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 12
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
To play, spot an Orc

minion.
Fierce. Damage +1.
While at a mountain site, this minion gains Terror 1 (each time this character is assigned to skirmish an opponent’s character, you may make them exert 1 of their characters).
More terrible still are thunder and lightning in the mountains at night, when storms come up from East and West and make war.
H1 C 199

Keywords before playing requirements, always. I’d almost forgotten about terror...certainly fits well here. Thumbs Up

Thranduil wrote:

Mountain Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 13
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
To play, spot an Orc

minion.
Fierce.
The current site is a mountain.
’If we don’t get blown off, or drowned, or struck by lightning, we shall be picked up by some giant and kicked sky-high for a football.’
H1 U 191

Same note about the keyword. Nice ability. Perhaps the spotting requirement should be more specific: "To play, spot a Giant (or 3 Orc

minions).

Thranduil wrote:

Stone-Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 13
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
To play, spot an Orc

minion.
Damage +1. Archer.
At a mountain site, this minion’s twilight cost is -2.
... the stone-giants were out, and were hurling rocks at one another for a game.
H1 R 196

I think the archer should be conditional: only if he’s at a mountain (and perhaps underground) site. Good, though. Thumbs Up

sickofpalantirs

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:25 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

you were right discarding artifacts is a terrible thing to do Wink

Thranduil wrote:

Terrible Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 12
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
Fierce. Damage +1.
To play, spot an Orc

Mountain Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 13
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
Fierce.
To play, spot a Giant (or 2 Orc

minions).
The current site is a mountain.
’If we don’t get blown off, or drowned, or struck by lightning, we shall be picked up by some giant and kicked sky-high for a football.’
H1 U 191
nice!

Stone-Giant Orc

Minion • Giant
Str: 13
Vit: 4
Sit: 5
Damage +1. Archer.
To play, spot an Orc

minion.
At a mountain site, this minion’s twilight cost is -2.
... the stone-giants were out, and were hurling rocks at one another for a game.
H1 R 196
l

cool!

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