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macheteman
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:20 pm
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
how about: Each time an Orc minion wins a skirmish, you may exert that minion to discard a possession born by a character in that skirmish to make an [orc] minion strength +X, where X is the strength bonus of the weapon discarded.

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NBarden
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:42 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Mouth of Saruman wrote:
Today we begin the second half of the Orc culture. Like some of the Orc culture’s ancestors, this half of Sauron’s lackeys deals primarily with bearing possessions. Sub-strategies still include dwelling in the darkness of underground sites and even more Orc cultural tokens! Smile

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3 Plundering Goblin Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 8
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Shadow: Exert this minion and remove 1 to play an Orc possession on this minion from your discard pile.
Long have the goblins enjoyed the spoils of Balin’s halls.

Why would I use this over Scavenging Goblins?

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2 Blackened Blade Orc
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +2
Bearer must be an Orc minion.
Bearer is strength +1 for each wound on each character in its skirmish (or strength +2 if the fellowship is at an underground site).
"Some of the swords were crooked: orc-scimitars with blackened blades."

Nice. You need to design a remake of the Goblin Scimitar as well...

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3 •Spoils of Moria Orc
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an Orc minion.
Each time an Orc minion wins a skirmish, you may exert that minion to transfer a possession borne by a character in that skirmish to one of your Orc minions. Your minion gains all strength bonuses from that possession.

So, by winning a skirmish, you get rid of a possession and give your Orc a pump. Can you say, broken?

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I’m not sure if the last card will work. I might have to include something about treating it as a Shadow possession.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:51 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Mouth of Saruman wrote:
Today we begin the second half of the Orc culture. Like some of the Orc culture’s ancestors, this half of Sauron’s lackeys deals primarily with bearing possessions. Sub-strategies still include dwelling in the darkness of underground sites and even more Orc cultural tokens! Smile

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3 Plundering Goblin Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 8
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Shadow: Exert this minion and remove 1 to play an Orc possession on this minion from your discard pile.
Long have the goblins enjoyed the spoils of Balin’s halls.
if you want to make it slightly better, make it just play an orc possession.
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2 Blackened Blade Orc
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength: +2
Bearer must be an Orc minion.
Bearer is strength +1 for each wound on each character in its skirmish (or strength +2 if the fellowship is at an underground site).
"Some of the swords were crooked: orc-scimitars with blackened blades."
make it only cost 1 IMO
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3 •Spoils of Moria Orc
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot an Orc minion.
Each time an Orc minion wins a skirmish, you may exert that minion to transfer a possession borne by a character in that skirmish to one of your Orc minions. Your minion gains all strength bonuses from that possession.
I don’t think you need to say he gains the strength bonuses. you might need to say it is treated as of his culture.
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Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:54 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
macheteman wrote:
how about: Each time an Orc minion wins a skirmish, you may exert that minion to discard a possession born by a character in that skirmish to make an [orc] minion strength +X, where X is the strength bonus of the weapon discarded.

-macheteman


That would work, but it defeats the purpose of ’gaining’ the weapon. I’d really like some more input before I move on to today’s cards. This could be what I go with, however. I’ll have to think on it.
Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:56 pm
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
Still deliberating on Spoils of Moria, so there’s still plenty of time to leave your feedback on it, should you have any. I’m going to recap the Orc culture once it is finished before I move on to the next culture, explaining some of the new, interesting strategies that I’ve created. Smile

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4Goblin Commander Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
While this minion bears a possession, each Orc minion gains hunter 1 (or hunter 2 if the fellowship is at an underground site).

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2 Covetous Goblin Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Hunter 1.
While you can spot 3 possessions, this minion is strength +2 (or strength +4 and fierce if the fellowship is at an underground site).

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0 Plundered by the Goblins Orc
Event • Skirmish
Exert an Orc minion and discard a possession borne by that minion to play another possession on it from your discard pile.
Last edited by Mouth of Saruman on Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:52 am; edited 2 times in total
macheteman
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:09 pm
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
Mouth of Saruman wrote:
Still deliberating on Spoils of Moria, so there’s still plenty of time to leave your feedback on it, should you have any. I’m going to recap the Orc culture once it is finished before I move on to the next culture, explaining some of the new, interesting strategies that I’ve created. Smile

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4Goblin Commander Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
While this minion bears a possession, each Orc minion gains hunter 1 (or hunter 2 if the fellowship is at an underground site).

good.
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2 Covetous Goblin Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Hunter 1.
While you can spot a possession, this minion is strength +2 (or strength +4 and fierce if the fellowship is at an underground site).

i would make it cost 3 and have a base strength of 6. it seems just a little too undercosted.
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1 Plundered by the Goblins Orc
Event • Skirmish
Exert an Orc minion and discard a possession borne by that minion to play another possession on it from your discard pile.


interesting, well balanced.
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:13 am
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
Mouth of Saruman wrote:
Still deliberating on Spoils of Moria, so there’s still plenty of time to leave your feedback on it, should you have any. I’m going to recap the Orc culture once it is finished before I move on to the next culture, explaining some of the new, interesting strategies that I’ve created. Smile

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4Goblin Commander Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
While this minion bears a possession, each Orc minion gains hunter 1 (or hunter 2 if the fellowship is at an underground site).

Nice card there, although it’s fairly powerful. Imagine having a horde of troll hunters!

3 Covetous Goblin Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Hunter 1.
While you can spot a possession, this minion is strength +2 (or strength +4 and fierce if the fellowship is at an underground site).

Hmm...I like it. Very nice.

1 Plundered by the Goblins Orc
Event • Skirmish
Exert an Orc minion and discard a possession borne by that minion to play another possession on it from your discard pile.
Interesting...reminds me a little of Plundered Armories. Intended? I’m not sure why you’d want to discard one possession to play another, though.
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Mouth of Saruman
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:24 am
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 190 Location: Orthanc
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:
Interesting...reminds me a little of Plundered Armories. Intended? I’m not sure why you’d want to discard one possession to play another, though.


Imagine this scenario. Your Covetous Goblin, bearing a Mordor Scimitar, is assigned to a skirmish. Per the Scimitar’s text, the companion in that skirmish must exert. Here’s where the fun part comes in; play Plundered by the Goblins to discard your Mordor Scimitar and play a Blackened Blade on that minion. Suddenly, you have the possibility of a 15 strength minion! Very Happy
AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:50 am
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
Mouth of Saruman wrote:
4Goblin Commander Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
While this minion bears a possession, each Orc minion gains hunter 1 (or hunter 2 if the fellowship is at an underground site).

Cool, no complaints.

Mouth of Saruman wrote:
3 Covetous Goblin Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Hunter 1.
While you can spot a possession, this minion is strength +2 (or strength +4 and fierce if the fellowship is at an underground site).

Well, you can almost always spot a possession, especially if you are running an Orc possession deck. I would go back to the old stats (2/5/2/4), and change it to spotting 3 possessions.

Mouth of Saruman wrote:
1 Plundered by the Goblins Orc
Event • Skirmish
Exert an Orc minion and discard a possession borne by that minion to play another possession on it from your discard pile.

Nice. To make it more usable though, I would drop the cost to 0 or allow the possession to be played on any Orc minion, instead of just the minion that was bearing the 1st possession.

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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:04 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
I was going to give a full review, but then I realized I agree with all that AC said. Razz So yeah...follow his suggestions and I’ll be a happy man too.
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