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How playable is Saruman, Coldly Still?
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| menace64 |
![]() Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:28 pm |
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| But you *could* use the staff to make Saruman, Instigator of Insurrection a 5 cost, 10 strength, 4 vitality, fierce and and damage +1 dude with possibly hunter 2... who fights. That ain’t bad! |
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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:11 pm |
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| Pywils |
![]() Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:23 am |
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| this is deadly. Pop down a War Trident on Bill Ferny, Agent of Saruman during the skrimish phase as well as Gathering Strength and you’ll win the game |
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| AnxiousChieftain |
![]() Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:23 am |
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I like the fact that Saruman’s ability activates in the skirmish; your opponent can’t know who is going to get a hand weapon, so you can just play possession in skirmishes where it would be favorable. Also, you can use up all the twilight that the  &  followers add. |
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| corvus |
![]() Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:33 pm |
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Cobra wrote: Move over, Mouth! Saruman, Coldly Still can unearth up to three possessions each time he’s played.
Blasphemy! 
Mouth gets out 3 possesions as well, since you gotta be retarded not to play a pavise as the first one. He can also get out CONDITIONS as well. So they uncomparable.
However, Saruman + Bill Ferny + Spear (with str +2 for hunters) + the new mumak = death for any normal ring-bearer... |
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| JayPL |
![]() Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:52 am |
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corvus wrote:
However, Saruman + Bill Ferny + Spear (with str +2 for hunters) + the new mumak = death for any normal ring-bearer...
100% agree  Ferny will be at least 11 str without any pumps like Gathering strength or Overrun.
Imagine him fully equipped (with Pavise also) skirmishing the Ring-bearer at Wold Battlefield with Driven From the Plains on the table  |
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| Cobra |
![]() Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:43 pm |
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corvus wrote: Blasphemy!
Mouth gets out 3 possessions as well, since you gotta be retarded not to play a pavise as the first one. He can also get out CONDITIONS as well. So they uncomparable.
Likewise, you’d be wise to play a Pavise as the first possession on Saruman. Actually that’s better than playing Pavise on the Mouth, since Saruman gets a strength bonus from it. You can assume whatever vitality modifiers you want; the point is that Saruman, Coldly Still can use his ability once more than the Mouth of Sauron, Messenger of Mordor.
"Move over, Mouth!" is of course an overstatement. As you say, the Mouth can also pull conditions, which makes him more great for some  Evil Men decktypes where Saruman, Coldly Still wouldn’t be appropriate at all. I was just pointing out that for decks that aim for a possession-based beatdown, the new Saruman is the stronger card -- mostly for the reasons I gave that you didn’t quote.
Of course, you could always play both at once to make things really ridiculous...  |
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| corvus |
![]() Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:45 pm |
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| TheHobbit13 |
![]() Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:39 pm |
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Pywils wrote: this is deadly. Pop down a War Trident on Bill Ferny, Agent of Saruman during the skrimish phase as well as Gathering Strength and you’ll win the game
um not if the person had legolas of the woodland emmissary or elven rope |
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| CarpeGuitarrem |
![]() Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:53 pm |
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| Neither of those activate during the skirmish phase. That’s the power of Bill Ferny. |
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