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bibfortuna25
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:46 am
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
You can only use Sting after strengths have been compared and wounds/overwhelming has occurred.

In short, if Frodo dies during the skirmish, you can’t use Sting’s text.


Edit: Whoops, sorry, Porter Troll, I accidentally deleted your original post.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:58 am
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what was the question? i don’t get it
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:45 am
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
His original question was whether you could use Sting BOTEL to effectively cancel a fierce skirmish involving Frodo and a Porter Troll.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:23 pm
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oh OK. thanks
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AdultLink
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:21 am
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bibfortuna25 wrote:
You can only use Sting after strengths have been compared and wounds/overwhelming has occurred.

In short, if Frodo dies during the skirmish, you can’t use Sting’s text.


Edit: Whoops, sorry, Porter Troll, I accidentally deleted your original post.


Are you messin with me? Because this is TOTALLY not what AC has told me and has played with for quite a good while. Second opinions and clarification please!
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elf lvr
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:27 am
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Sting activates when a skirmish is about to end. not after it ends. so it still takes effect before overwhelming and wounding and so forth.

AC is correct on this matter im afraid.
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hblika
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:47 am
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elf lvr wrote:
Sting activates when a skirmish is about to end. not after it ends. so it still takes effect before overwhelming and wounding and so forth.

AC is correct on this matter im afraid.


No, that’s wrong. Bibfortuna is right. A skirmish isn’t about to end until the skirmish has been resolved, and wounds have been placed.
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:20 am
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
The answer I gave is correct. It doesn’t matter what AC says; the rules are the rules, and they must be followed.

Sting can only be used after all wounds/overwhelming have occurred.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:20 am
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianópolis, SC, Brasil
bibfortuna25 is correct. "About to end" is something to better depict that the action IS, after all, a Response, so it does not "use up" your skirmish action, NOR does it cancel a skirmish. About to end takes place just before ending, so that means AFTER resolving skirmishactions, placing wounds/burdens AND checking for possible overwhelms. It DOES, however, discard the minion (provided that your Ring-Bearer survives) for a possible double-move.
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AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:45 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
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I look in a thread I’ve never posted in and find people arguing about whether I’m correct or not.

I’ve never given a ruling about this - I myself don’t have the card, and thus have never used it. When I play against somone who uses it, they’ve always discarded the minion before taking wounds, but I guess I can correct that error now.
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